Carleen is a Mother of five children living in the country in Victoria, Australia. My first contact with Carleen began with our mutual interest in alternative nutrition. During our many phone conversations I became curious about the way she and her family live. Carleen home educates her five children. Two of her children were born at home. Electricity is drawn from a generator or solar power. Their food is mostly organically grown, some from their own garden. I wanted to learn more about what this means for everyday life, so decided to visit Carleen and her life.
After dropping my six year old off at school, and continuing on my way out of town, I think about what it is that I really wanted to ask Carleen. Although I have sent my questions on ahead, I want to know a little more. I want to know that I am not depriving my children by not offering them this life.
Carleen has five sons. I imagine her up early lining up her children at the kitchen table, books out, doing their times tables. Not so. Rather than presenting her children with set, regular school work, Carleen helps the children learn about their interests by making information available, and answering questions as they arise. Carleen says, "I believe children learn in blocks of time, three to six months, working hard at something they are interested in, then dropping it and starting something new. Rather than twenty minutes per day or week as in school."
I turn off the main road and drive up the long dirt track that keeps to the wire fence line.
Stopping once to open the gate that allows me to drive into the next paddock, then continuing on to the mud brick house. The dogs announce our arrival; barking and yapping around the car. I see there is work in progress on one side of the house, later Carleen tells me her two eldest sons have decided to build another room there.
My two younger children are with me, I knock once on the open screen door and at Carleen's invitation we let ourselves in. My children are happy playing on the floor with Carleen's younger children, Tali ten, Liam five and Eric three, and we settle into a cup of tea and a chat.
J.I. Carleen you prefer
to use the term 'Home Education' rather than 'Home Schooling'.
C.S. Yes, I don't like
'Home Schooling', it gives the idea of a school structure,
and home being like school. I use the term 'Home Education',
as I think of education, as being learning. I have come
to believe that the whole of life is an education, you
can't just block education into sections and buildings.
J.I. Do you come across
a lot of negativity about the way you choose to educate
your children?
C.S. A lot of people
have the attitude that we don't learn anything until we
step into a building -- an education establishment. I
think we learn by doing things, by getting involved in
life. Basically what I have done, and worked toward as
a parent and as a member of the family, is totally opposite
to the majority, and people are always asking why.
It is something
I have questioned all along, when you live outside the
norm, you have to question, and other people do that on
my behalf; everyone has had ideas and attitudes, particularly
when the children were young.
Now I don't
care, and no-one argues anymore. I have a son who is eighteen
and has finished his degree. He recently won an award
in his field at LaTrobe University, and has also been
nominated for Young Australian of The Year.
The person
Joel has grown up to be, is everything that I wanted,
envisaged. I still constantly try to point them in the
right direction, trying to encourage them to have right
actions, right beliefs.
A friend sent
me a card recently, congratulating us as she understood
what we had given and what we have had to go against,
to do what we've done.
When people
talk to our children they're impressed with the kind of
children they are, and it is really nice to hear that
coming back from other people, that that is what they
see -- the end result that I have been aiming for all
these years. Whereas when the children were young, it
was only a belief.
J.I. What is 'Home
Education' about for you, being true to yourself, being
true to your ideas and thoughts?
C.S. Yes, and I could
not, not do that. There isn't a part of me that couldn't.
It would be like living a lie
to try and do what somebody else thought I should do.
J.I. Is it about instilling
a sense of independence?
C.S. Yes, and a sense
of who they are, not what someone else thinks they should
be. I have had to struggle hard with that one. I believe
that people are who they are, they should be allowed to
be who they are, and develop that. It is about, being,
growing, bringing up my children how God wants me to.
I will do whatever it takes for that to be the outcome.
J.I. Carleen you are
involved with PACSA (Parents Association for Children
of Special Abilities) how did you become involved with
them?
C.S. When Joel, (now
18) was a child I began to go along to their meetings.
I believe all children are talented. It is a matter of
discovering each child's special abilities.
J.I. Carleen do you
feel schools can meet children's educational needs?
C.S. They can't. Smaller
schools can perhaps, if any school can. In smaller schools
children can think, they have the time to think, you can
converse, even with the teacher, the teacher is not an
out there, unapproachable person.
J.I. How do you provide
your children with the information they ask for, or need?
C.S. When it comes
to music we're lucky as there are a variety of musicians
in the house. We get books from the library, or
sometimes we find a person who is knowledgeable in a particular
area. We go on excursions; recently we went to a dairy
to learn about dairy farming.
When Joel was
thirteen he was interested in welding, so I enrolled him
in a Tafe course on welding, which
lead to his interests in computers. Dion, who is sixteen,
was interested in Bee Keeping so he spent a week at an
apiary and began working there, and now he is working
on a worm farm.
J.I. You mentioned
you enrolled Joel in a Tafe course at age thirteen, have
you set an age at which you feel your children can be
educated out of the home?
C.S. Not really, but
I suppose that is about the age that I would do that.
We provide them with any information they need until they
are old enough to make decisions for themselves about
what they are interested in and know what they want to
do.
J.I. Where does your
strong belief in yourself and your ideas come from?
C.S. I can't even answer
for myself why I feel so strongly and believe, even despite
the fact that I don't think anybody has supported how
I wanted to educate my children, how I wanted to parent
my children.
My grandparents instilled in me the
belief that I was fantastic, that the person
who I was, was wonderful, and I can remember my Grandfather
telling me that I would go a long way in life. My grandfather
was also very politically aware, and he encouraged me
to think about things and not just go along with people.
J.I. Can we talk a
little about home birth? What benefits do you see in home
birth?
C.S. Everything, being
in your own environment, in total control, not being stressed
out by everybody watching, able to climb into your own
bed afterwards. It is just so uncomplicated. You don't
have to have somebody who decides to tell you what to
do and when you can do it. 'Stop pushing, stop breathing,
push now, take this...'
When I was
nine, I asked my Aunt what it was like to have a baby,
she said, "it was like shelling peas", and I
thought, yes, exactly, it is natural, it is hard work
yes, but it is just normal, having babies, that is what
our bodies are meant to do. We can incorporate that into
our lives.
J.I. Were you concerned
about needing medical intervention for yourself or your
baby?
C.S. When I asked the
doctor who attended my births, if he would come, he looked
me and said, "you could die at home", and as
my response was that if I was going to die I would rather
die at home than in hospital, he didn't hesitate to come.
J.I. Your third and
fourth children were born at home, but your fifth child
was born in hospital, why did you decide against a home
birth for Eric?
C.S. We had Rhesus
incompatibility.
J.I. So if you foresee
a problem you would choose to have the baby in hospital.
C.S. Yes.
J.I. Carleen can we
talk a bit about your life style in general? When we spoke
on the phone to arrange a time to meet, you had not changed
to day-light-saving time. Are you ever accused of being
out of touch with society, and does that concern you?
C.S. A friend's Father
was disgusted that I didn't know anything about a particular
war going on. The way I see it, yes, it would be important
for me to know if I could do something about it, but I
can't, so there is no point worrying the children or myself.
Carleen is
keen to show me her vegetable garden and I am keen to
see it. We wander out the back door and the children hover
about doing their own thing, playing with the puppies,
riding bikes. Tali, ten, shows us his flower garden, his
mother tells us he has recently taken an interest in plants
and flowers. By the look of the healthy display, he is
obviously doing a great job,
Carleen takes
hold of the wheelbarrow with a bucket, and we wander down
to the garden following a vague track in the worn, brown,
grass. A dome shape chicken cage is in the vegetable garden.
Chickens included. The straw, food scraps, chickens eating,
excreting, and scratching, make a wonderful soil to grow
the vegetables in. Carleen tells me that when the chickens
work is done, the dome is moved on to the next spot. I
then become aware of a number of circular vegetable patches
in the garden where the chickens have been.
After feeding
the chickens, picking strawberries, and collecting the
eggs, we make our way back up the track. I say to Carleen
that it seems like hard work. She answers, "well,
no, not really, when you are loving every second of it."
Our visit is
over, and as I drive away, I am lost in the thoughts I
take home from my time with Carleen. I immediately want
to go pick up my daughter from school, and never again
have to have the morning argument about why she must go
to school.
As I reach
home, although I am inspired to live a healthier lifestyle,
and I want chickens in my back yard, I decide that I am
doing the right thing for my children. It is about choice,
and what we choose for our children and ourselves, within
our own lives, our own capabilities, and our own beliefs.
It is as individual as the people we are, and what is
best for some, might not be best for others. I am pleased
that I am content with the life I provide for my children
and myself.
Julie
Ingleton
Australia
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